Beck: Do you feel like, writing this piece, the fact that it comes up again every fall, has that shaped your experience of autumn in any way?
Nissan: It’s really fun to see people posting photos of their kids and quoting it. I’ve heard people say it randomly.
Beck: Just in the world?
Nissan: Yeah, I have a couple times. It definitely makes the season a little extra fun for me.
Beck: There’s now a culture war of sorts over fall. There’s been something of a backlash to people’s enjoyment of things like apple picking, or pumpkin-spice stuff.
Nissan: Oh, that’s funny. This is the perfect example of what’s happening in the world today, where I’m in my little media silo, my bubble, and my world loves fall, so that’s all I see. I honestly haven’t seen much of the backlash.
Beck: What would you say to the haters of fall?
Nissan: I just don’t know how you can hate it. It’s cozy, there’s delicious foods, the foliage is beautiful. There are built-in activities to fall. Maybe it’s the people who love summer so much and they feel like fall just means winter’s coming. But fall is it’s own beast. You just have to relish it.
Beck: I was hoping that you might be down, from your position as an authority on fall, to offer a verdict on various fall-related things. Can we do a lightning round?
Nissan: Yeah, sure.
Beck: Apple picking.
Nissan: Too humid. I remember as a kid it was amazing and crisp, and now I feel like the last four seasons I’ve just been sweating through my shirt while apple picking. Which kind of wrecks it. But other than that, I love it, it was one of my favorite things ever.
Beck: We got to climate change really quickly.
Nissan: I know.
Beck: Okay, corn mazes.
Nissan: I’ve only done one and it was, I would say, terrifying.
Beck: Hay rides.
Nissan: Bumpy. All of a sudden, I feel like everything I’m saying is negative. How did I end up being negative about every fall thing you’re mentioning? I would say bumpy and itchy. But fun.
Nissan: Not a sweater guy, honestly. I end up looking like Paddington Bear whenever I wear sweaters.
Beck: What about scarves?
Nissan: No, I don’t know how to tie a scarf. I can’t do that either.
Beck: I’m trying to find a positive one.
Nissan: I know. I guess I hate fall. Maybe we got to a deeper meaning here for the piece.
Beck: Oh my God, the internet is going to kill me. What about candy corn?
Nissan: Love candy corns.
Beck: That’s a real controversy.
Nissan: I thought the only controversy is if you eat each color, if you eat the white then eat the yellow then eat the orange. I do it that way, layer by layer.
Beck: “Leaf peeping?” Do you know this term?
Nissan: Oh yeah. I love foliage. Big fan. Love the colors.
Beck: The end of daylight-saving time?
Nissan: I just never know when it is. I’ve never gotten it right once in my life.
Beck: Pumpkin-spice lattes?