In "one of the frankest CEO interviews you'll ever read," John Sculley talks publicly for the first time about Steve Jobs since he left Apple in 1993. After a long career as an executive at PepsiCo, Sculley was named co-CEO of Apple in 1983 with Jobs. He is best known for taking control of the company for nearly a decade after forcing Jobs' resignation. In the 90-minute conversation with Cult of Mac's Leander Kahney, Sculley also admits that it was a mistake for him to run the company when he knew little about computers.

I'm actually convinced that if Steve hadn't come back when he did -- if they had waited another six months -- Apple would have been history. It would have been gone, absolutely gone.

What did he do? He turned it right back to where it was -- as though he never left. He went all the way back.

So during my era, really everything we did was following his philosophy -- his design methodology.

Unfortunately, I wasn't as good at it as he was. Timing in life is everything. It just wasn't a time when you could build consumer products and he wasn't having any more luck at  NeXT than we were having at Apple -- and he was better at it than we were. The one thing he did do better: he built the better next-generation operating system, which eventually was merged into Apple's operating system.

Read the story about the interview or the full transcript at Cult of Mac.

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