They also wanted to get the Supreme Court majority, so they could continue to side with corporations, they could continue to move toward restricting, if not overturning, Roe v. Wade. They could continue to protect big political interests, like they did with Citizens United, in terms of undisclosed money, and they could continue to shrink the electorate, which they did with the Voting Rights Act, which, you know, has spawned this explosion of suppression in states.
Goldberg: He’s effective as president, isn’t he?
Clinton: Well, he has Republicans in the Congress who go along with him, who are ...
Goldberg: I’m looking at trade this week. I’m looking at ...
Clinton: Well, look, I—it’s not like everything he does all day is bad.
There are things that occasionally, much to my surprise, do pop up, and say, okay. I mean, basically he took the much-reviled Trans-Pacific Partnership Act, and he took elements out of it that the Obama administration had negotiated, and stuck them into what is the latest iteration, nafta 2.0.
Trump’s nafta strategy: bluff, rebrand, declare victory
But here’s what I’ve been more concerned about, put aside even the judicial threats to individual rights to our—our, you know, future as a—as a nation together and put aside the economic damage that is going to be done on the medium term.
I say in my afterword there are these concerted assaults on our democracy, degrading the rule of law. We have seen it every—every week of this administration. The kind of insulting comments made about the FBI, about our intelligence agencies, about the whole law-enforcement process of our country.
And trying to go after individuals and—and make them the—the signals to others in the Justice Department and elsewhere that we’re preferring to be a rule of men, preferably one man, as opposed to the rule of law. So degrading the rule of law.
Delegitimizing our elections—I mean the ongoing threat from the Russians, from the kind of tactics we saw in 2016, has not abated. It is still there. They were successful; they’re not going away. That really is, and should be, a concern to everybody, regardless of party.
No. 3, the attacks on truth and reason and facts, which started, as we remember, right after the inauguration was done on the steps of the Capitol. I’ve been to every inauguration since 1993—there weren’t that many people there, let’s be honest.
And all of a sudden ... you know, you have the president ...
Goldberg: Now you’re just trolling him.
Clinton: Yeah, the president ...
Goldberg: Now you’re just—you’re really ...
Clinton: ... You know, the president’s new staff, they’re settling into the White House, and they’re being trotted out in front of the camera with phony pictures and claims. And you had to say to yourself, “Wait a minute. This kind of stuff happens not in the United States—this happens somewhere else.” It happens in authoritarian regimes where they try to literally change reality in front of you.