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In Tuesday's DREAMer video, Rep. Steve King repeatedly told a college graduate that her English was very good, but Sen. Rand Paul is the one trying to recover from embarrassment. During an interview on Fox News' On The Record, Greta Van Susteren ended an interview with Paul by asking him: "What's your explanation for this video?"

Paul said that about five minutes before the video, a reporter came up to the table and asked if he would do an interview. "And I said 'I need to take a couple more bites and then we'll do an interview,'" he said, adding that he was about 10 feet away from the "kamikaze interview" but was busy.

This explanation does a disservice to his aide, Sergio Gor, who saw bad situation forming and rescued his boss. As much as Paul is being mocked for leaving the interview, it would have been worse for him if he stayed. "His aide wisely advises him to leave his sandwich behind and clear out of the screen — and it’s a good thing he does," TIME's Michael Scherer wrote Tuesday. "King, whose role in the political debate over immigration is basically the opposite of a firefighter’s role at a fire, does not disappoint." 

Paul is less inflammatory, but vague. "You know me, I've always been open to discussing immigration," he told Susteren. "I'm very open to discussing that I think there should be some kind of immigration reform, but I think you can't do that without first securing the border." 

While he didn't have time to say that to the two activists who confronted him, Paul has been consistently vague on immigration reform. Last month on Meet the Press he called for a version of reform that allows people to work, but only after the border is secured. “I am for immigration reform, but I insist that you secure the border first because if you have a beacon, of some kind of forgiveness, without a secure border, the whole world will come,” Paul said.

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