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On Wednesday MSNBC host Chris Hayes went all in on Jennifer Stefano of the Koch brothers-backed Americans for Prosperity. The interview quickly devolved into a shouting match and, by Thursday afternoon, liberals and conservatives were arguing over which side got schooled. We'd like to clear up exactly who got schooled and who did the schooling. Spoiler: The person who stated that families making $94,000 a year qualify for Medicaid did not do any schooling.
Hayes started off his show with a four-minute monologue explaining conservative reactions to the enrollment extension, then introduced Stefano as "one of those people who I really think genuinely wakes up every day and thinks about how to destroy Obamacare." It gets increasingly more aggressive from there. The Independent Journal Review and other conservative sites argued that Hayes got "schooled," and "destroyed," and noted — accurately! — that Hayes interrupted Stefano several times. Others noted that most of what Stefano said was inaccurate, which it was. There were no real winners.
Stefano claim: 7 million people lost their insurance because of Obamacare
This is not true. Estimates of canceled plans are usually around 5 million. Also, Politifact recently rated this kind of statement false, given that half of the nation's canceled plans were kept due to the "keep your plan fix" and many people were automatically enrolled into similar plans. Hayes didn't challenge Stefano on this.