NYT: "A bipartisan group of 200 former government officials, retired generals and religious leaders plans to issue a statement on Wednesday calling for a presidential order to outlaw some interrogation and detention practices used by the Bush administration over the last six years." Yes it seems that the Genghis Khan view of the matter is gaining popularity vis-à-vis the Bush position.

John McCain, meanwhile, is kinda sorta against torture unless the CIA does it in which case it's fine.

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