At the end of a pretty long post Marc Ambinder reports "Penn's mistake notwithstanding, he still retains the confidence of the Clintons and will still play a major role in the campaign. What does that tell you about the quality of advice the Clintons believe him to impart?"

To me, this has always been the Penn issue, and it's really not an issue that firing -- or pretending to fire -- Penn can resolve. At the end of the day, Hillary Clinton is the kind of person who has looked at Mark Penn's work in US politics over the past 10-15 years and deemed him to be a valuable source of insight. Someone who thinks that can (and does) easily pass the "better than John McCain" bar, but it still makes her a poor choice to lead an attempted revival of progressive politics in the United States.