We didn't go forward with Seinfeld because the research was so disastrous. So the fact that we kept that thing alive, ordered four episodes, put them on in the summer, and then it became the wildly inventive and hugely successful show, it was absolutely against all odds. I'm still tickled by that. Every day when I go into my office, I do look at that on the wall, and it makes me smile.
You already mentioned Modern Family. What other TV shows on today do you watch, or think are good?
My DVR is filled with a lot of cable. Modern Family, I love. For many of the years, I think Hugh Laurie and the House character had been brilliant, and I love that. Today, Game of Thrones is "get out of my way, I'm planting myself in front of my television and do not interrupt me because I've got another episode of Game of Thrones to watch." It's sensational. I found myself pissed off at The Killing last year. I was a viewer who found it riveting. I thought the acting talent, the sense of place—it was great. I blame the network as much as anything because they kept promising us that we were going to get the conclusion. They were promising something that they didn't deliver on. I was really pissed off.
You weren't the only one. Did you go back for season two?
I had to come back and see what they would do. I still it a compelling narrative, interesting characters, and I didn't abandon it. But boy, they pushed me. I loved the Smash pilot. I think the cast is outstanding, and I think they're walking a tightrope of a very difficult form to pull off. I root for them to pull it off. I'm glad that NBC is actually sticking with it, and picked it up for another season. It's a very, very difficult task to be able to creatively execute that each and every week. Girls... I found Lena Dunham's new show to be, for me, a little sad. I felt the set-up was sensational. I guess I could relate to that as the parents said to their kid, "You know what? It's time. We're cutting you off." My 27-year-old son said he found it funnier than I did. He found their struggle to get through and navigate the world, he did not find it as sad as I did. I really thought that it had honesty. So I'm gonna see where it goes. I wanted it to be more humorous, and for him it was. It was really interesting: I watched it myself, and I watched him watch it over at home and he was laughing more than I was. I found that really fascinating that he didn't think it nearly as sad.
I find Homeland on Showtime to be absolutely riveting. One of the best dramas on TV. I've watched every season of Curb Your Enthusiasm. The last season got just a wonderful kick by Larry going to New York. If you can't get your Seinfeld, it's a lot of fun to still have Curb.
What did you think of the Seinfeld reunion on Curb?
I thought it was delightful. I never wanted Seinfeld to go away. It's just such an entertaining part of my life. It's therapeutic to be able to watch it. It wasn't quite the same. Everybody got a little older. But there was still magic there, you could feel it. It seems like they had a lot of fun.