Andrew Leonard interviews Bruce Bartlett about what might happen if the US doesn't raise its debt ceiling and defaults on its debts:

The problem is that the Tea Partyers are nuts. That is my point. They are irrational, they are ignorant, they don't know anything about financial markets and they think that they are standing up for God and the balanced budget.

Yglesias differs and urges Obama to call the GOP's bluff.

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