Cliff May And Jon Stewart

The man who wants to export human rights and also torture prisoners in the US tangled with Jon Stewart last night. Their conversation went far beyond the edited show, and you can watch the video of it here. I should repeat that I long admired Cliff's defense of American and Western values and find his current position - that America should retain the right to torture with the same techniques as the Khmer Rouge and the Gestapo - as demoralizing as it is abhorrent. I also believe that it has darkened the rest of the world considerably.

But that's what happens when the city on the hill has a torture chamber attached to it.