In the December 2012 Atlantic, Jeffrey Goldberg challenges the conventional argument against gun ownership: "Anti-gun activists believe the expansion of concealed-carry permits represents a serious threat to public order. But what if, in fact, the reverse is true?" His article imagines an America in which law-abiding citizens are allowed to carry concealed weapons on trains, on campuses, and in movie theaters.
Here, Goldberg discusses this idea with Jonathan Rauch, an Atlantic contributing editor and a guest scholar at the Brookings Institution. In 2000, Rauch wrote a provocative article for Salon arguing that more gay people should arm themselves. He explains his reasoning to Goldberg and talks about the dual need for better gun control and more guns.