Though we don't know what those 65 percent of jobs will be, you do sketch out a rough idea of what the future workplace will be like and what skills  workers will need. Can you describe that future and what you recommend doing to prepare for it?

Let's not even try to imagine the future. Everywhere around us are new kinds of employment that didn't exist a decade ago. In fact, if you look back a decade to what people predicted we'd be doing now, almost everyone was wrong. Very few people, including those who invented the Internet and the World Wide Web, understood the impact crowdsourcing would have. 

The term "crowdsourcing" was coined only in 2006 and Wikipedia defines it as "outsourcing tasks traditionally performed by an employee or a contractor, to an undefined, large group of people or community (a "crowd") through an open call."  Wikipedia, of course, is itself an example of crowdsourcing and no one predicted that without remuneration, as volunteers, millions of people all over the world would create the largest encyclopedia the world has ever seen, and would work to edit it to make it better, more reliable than any existing dictionary. No economic, intellectual, pedagogical theory predicted Wikipedia. "Human nature" a decade ago wouldn't even allow such a cooperative venture, and yet there we have it. And so much of contemporary life is now crowdsourced -- including the free and open source Web browser Firefox by Mozilla which has taken over nearly 30 percent of the world-wide usage share of Web browsers.

So, think about how many "jobs of the future" already exist, on every level, just related to crowdsourcing: (1) the full array of programming jobs, building computational platforms for participation ("crowdsourcing"); (2) the full array of manufacturing jobs building the hardware by which information is transmitted (cell-phone towers are structures) and received, by which computers are assembled; (3) the full array of assessment jobs, creating and designing and implementing relevant testing systems, such as those used by web developers such as Top Coder, so that anyone's contribution to a crowdsourced system can be "graded"; (4) intellectual property lawyers to sort out the complex IP issues of our age, ideally not just reforming but reconceptualizing outdated and stifling copyright and patent laws. The list goes on.

In the years ahead, we will need knowledgeable activists to fight to protect our labor laws in a new economy and to protect our personal and civil rights at a time when, from Egypt to San Francisco, authorities have been willing to turn off the cell-phone towers to quell protests. We will need new kinds of financial analysis to understand and regulate erratic market behaviors that the new computational systems already allow. And we will need new artists, writers, dancers, and musicians who can make beauty from our digital, interactive participation on the Web and beyond it. 

When you think in these terms, about how drastically paradigms and potentialities have shifted in such a short time, you realize even that 65% number is probably too small! 

You write that "Games are unquestionably the single most important cultural form of the digital age." What do you mean by that? How could games be used to improve education?

Games are integral in human society, from ancient times to the present. Games are based on strategy and on challenge. If you do well at a game, your reward isn't "recess" or a "time out"; it's a greater challenge. When you beat a tough opponent, you seek out a tougher one. That is learning. Being able to harness the energy of games is one of our best learning tools, as any good parent knows, from patty-cake to Simon Says to musical chairs to chess or go. You can advance physical, mental, linguistic, and intellectual progress through games where the testing isn't after the fact but is intrinsic to and embedded in the very structure of play.

In the 1980s and 1990s virtually all the research on early video games was positive, about the benefits to everything from attention to memory. Games are still used to train pilots, the military, architects, surgeons (robotic and traditional), musicians, engineers, and are also used for rehab and to help or enhance elderly cognitive functions. But three factors shifted the focus of the research on games away from learning to the negative effects games could have on kids. (1) Cute, abstract games like PacMan gave way to graphic, violent narrative games such as Grand Theft Auto. (2) Kids really took to video games; a recent Pew survey indicates 97% of kids play games. And (3) blame for the terrible 1999 Columbine tragedy, where kids systematically sought out and executed their classmates, was pinned by the public and the press on rock music and video games. The actual commission that studied Columbine did not reach this conclusion but parents and educators understandably were alarmed. After 1999 research dollars that once went to thinking about games and learning were rerouted to moralistic studies about how video games lead to violence, asocial behavior, and so forth.   We lost a decade.

I am very proud to be part of the MacArthur Foundation's Digital Media and Learning Initiative that has spent the last several years trying to reverse that trend, to do research that studies how kids actually use media, not how we fear they do, and to develop exciting games that motivate creative, challenging learning. I recently was able to see a demonstration of a fantastic online algebra game, for example, that not only challenges learning, but where every problem is a test, in the sense that, if you don't solve the problem, the system generates a new problem that goes a little backward to some more basic principles, and then, when you succeed, it generates a more advanced problem and so forth. The results are amazing, because the test isn't at the end of the year, it is in everything you do, as you do it, getting not just harder and harder but more and more interesting. We know that boredom -- for the most gifted students and also for the lowest academic achievers -- is the biggest inhibitor of learning there is. Games motivate. Checkmate!

Are there any aspects of our educational model that you think will serve us well in the years ahead? In what ways is our world not changing?

The most fundamental conditions of a classroom are precious -- kids together in a special environment dedicated to their improvement, with the support of a teacher to guide them along the way. Structurally, there is no better situation in which a society can invest. Now, does that environment have to be face-to-face or can it be supplied online, by a virtual community? I like to say that if, as educators, we can be replaced by a computer screen, we should be. That is, if all I'm doing is standing up at the front of the room and yapping at kids, not responding to their individual needs and their collective energy, not exploiting this rare and special opportunity for us to be together, then someone should pocket my salary and use it to buy some really effective online, interactive learning system supported by an online community of active and interactive mentors and facilitators.

The astonishing online nonprofit Peer-to-Peer University offers courses on everything from computer programing to Baroque art in a crowdsourced, interactive way, proposed by individuals, taught by others. Recently Stanford announced it was offering a free, online course in Artificial Intelligence. Last I heard, over 100,000 people had signed up for it. The virtual organization of educators that I cofounded in 2002 is HASTAC (pronounced "haystack," and an unwieldy acronym that means Humanities, Arts, Sciences, and Technology Advanced Collaboratory). It now has more than 7,000 active members including 200 undergraduate and graduate students on small scholarships around the world who hold online intellectual forums on topics they generate -- "Democratizing Knowledge," "Digital Storytelling," "Grading 2.0:  Evaluation in the Digital Age,"  "Race, Ethnicity, and Diaspora in the Digital Age," or even "Critical Code Studies." These heady, online, student-generated Forums have seen over 350,000 visitors in the last two years.

The point is that if the classroom experience is inferior to an online educational program, get rid of it!   If you respect and honor the fact that humans love collective experiences where we cheer, fear, laugh, or learn together -- we pay to go to sports, movies, comedy clubs, concerts, and lectures -- then you can begin to rethink school as a collective event and maximize what is added by a group experiencing together.  

In researching Now You See It:  How the Brain Science of Attention Will Transform the Way We Live, Work and Learn, I spent a lot of time in the classrooms of gifted individuals who sometimes used very little actual technology but really thought about interaction in profound and inspiring ways. I profiled some of those in the book. And, of course, I talk about how my own teaching has been transformed by what I've learned from the lessons of the digital age we live in and, more specifically, from the marvelous teachers I've met in the course of my research on this topic. 

That is the real message of the book. As long as we understand the importance of "unlearning," we can take the next step of relearning in order to be happier and more productive in a challenging world. This is true at any age. We have to first take the time to understand where our assumptions come from. History is very useful here. We have to understand and evaluate our own habits and realize that is where our own attention blindness stems from.

That which is automatic is unexamined -- and that's what gets us in trouble. Our habits cause us distress when the world is changing fast and we cannot keep up. But just as we learned our habits of attention, we can unlearn them and relearn new ones -- if we have the right partners, tools, and methods to help us do that. That's what I was able to find in doing the research for Now You See It: not ideas about the future, but real people, right now, who had found ways to maximize their own potential by working with the right partners, tools, and methods. They have inspired me to make really positive and productive changes in my own patterns -- and I hope their compelling stories will inspire my readers too.