May well be that Obama "says what he has to say as a politician."


In the 20 years that you've been his pastor, have you ever heard him repeat any of your controversial statements as his opinion?


No. No. No. Absolutely not.

I don't talk to him about politics. And so he had a political event, he goes out as a politician and says what he has to say as a politician. I continue to be a pastor who speaks to the people of God about the things of God.