Immigration...the best debate of the cycle

McCain gives his standard campaign trail answer on his immigration evolution.

Romney calls McCain's position a "form of amnesty." Calls for secure border, an employment verification system, an ID card...

McCain wants to respond, but he won;t..

Giuliani asked whether illegals who have been identified within the US should leave before they could apply for citizenship... "You can't throw out all 12 million people. I would focus on the illegal immigrants who are here who have committed crimes... with the people that are here... I think what you would do then is, say to the 12 million people who are here...come forward, get an ID card...the ones who do come forward would have to pay taxes, would have to pay a fine...would have to a pay a fine" -- but would be able to stay in the country.

McCain: "No better authority than Gov. Romney said it was not amnesty."

Romney: "What he described is that his campaign does not provide amnesty...he charges people $5000 to stay...which is technically not amnesty."

McCain: "That is not true....you said it was reasonable."

Romney asks McCain what his plan is..McCain says it's like Rudy's plan...

McCain: "For you to describe it as you do...you can spend your whole fortune on these attack ads, but it still won't be true."

McCain: "There is no special right associated with my plan..."

Romney: "Are they sent home?"

McCain: "Some of them home and some of them aren't..."

Lots more debate...Rudy points out that Reagan declared amnesty..