David Simon and Brian Lehrer

A remarkable conversation this morning between The Wire's David Simon and WNYC's Brian Lehrer on Brian's show. I recommend listening to the entire 16 minutes (below), but here's a small taste: 

David Simon: Somewhere along the line, we mistook capitalism, which is a remarkable economic engine, and something we can't do without [for] a social compact, for a manner in which you build a just society. If the profit motive determines the rationale for a just society, we're in a lot of trouble, because when capital triumphs unequivocally...what you're going to end up with is someone stepping on someone else's throat...