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Topic: 9) Older and wiser (1 of 8), Read 111 times
Conf: Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff
From: Barbara Wallraff (msgrammar@theatlantic.com)
Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999 11:53 AM

Michael Mattinson, of Nashua, N.H., writes: "I was asked if I knew a word for the difference in knowledge and experience that occurs as in a generational gap but without such an age difference.

"I understand the concept but have no idea as to a word to cover this difference. The person involved feels that being five years older than her boyfriend is not a 'generation,' but the gap seems to be there."

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Topic: 9) Older and wiser (2 of 8), Read 110 times
Conf: Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff
From: Rebecca L. Beam (rebeccalbeam@cs.com)
Date: Thursday, October 07, 1999 09:46 PM

I suspect that perhaps the word 'maturity' would cover the 'older and wiser' dilemma, at least in this instance.

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Topic: 9) Older and wiser (3 of 8), Read 105 times
Conf: Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff
From: Martin Melhus (melhus@fdrc.iit.edu)
Date: Friday, October 08, 1999 02:11 AM

Maturity is good. The first thing that came to my mind is experienced. More worldly could also be appropriate.

Regards,
Martin

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Topic: 9) Older and wiser (4 of 8), Read 83 times
Conf: Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff
From: M A Mattinson (mattchal@pobox.com)
Date: Thursday, October 14, 1999 03:51 PM

The meaning being looked for is not necessarily wiser or more mature, but a difference that encompasses different experiences, different cultures (e.g.Alabama and New York City) and other changes. Given the acceleration of change in society today it seems necessary to have a word to cover this concept. To me maturity means wiser, older and more experienced (more worldly) and thus does not cover this situation. With a generational difference both parties can say there is a generational difference, without inferring superiority.

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Topic: 9) Older and wiser (5 of 8), Read 45 times
Conf: Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff
From: Susan Petrone (petrone@wolf.csuohio.edu)
Date: Thursday, October 21, 1999 11:17 AM

I think I understand the concept -- the object of my affections is 12 years older than I, and sometimes our misunderstandings stem not from a lack of maturity or experience on my part, but from having been shaped by different cultural time periods. We occasionally speak a different generlect (can I make that up? If the language of an individual is his/her idiolect, why can't the language of a generation be its generlect?)

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Topic: 9) Older and wiser (6 of 8), Read 77 times
Conf: Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff
From: J Debner (jdebner@enteract.com)
Date: Thursday, October 14, 1999 04:46 PM

[Disclaimer: I work in the computer industry and therefore sometimes have a skewed sense of how regular people usually talk.]

I've been known to snidely refer to people as being "in beta" (straight out of college) versus Version 4.0, etc. In this case perhaps a person could be a later release than their significant other; enhanced features, better integration, fewer bugs.

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Topic: 9) Older and wiser (7 of 8), Read 75 times
Conf: Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff
From: Barbara Wallraff (msgrammar@theatlantic.com)
Date: Friday, October 15, 1999 08:57 AM

Interesting point. But then again, in my experience a computer doesn't seem to crash much when it's new ...


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Topic: 9) Older and wiser (8 of 8), Read 9 times
Conf: Word Fugitives, with Barbara Wallraff
From: Matt Swift (swift@alum.mit.edu)
Date: Tuesday, November 02, 1999 05:13 PM

On 10/7/99 11:53:25 AM, Barbara Wallraff wrote:
>Michael Mattinson, of Nashua,
>N.H., writes: "I was asked if
>I knew a word for the
>difference in knowledge and
>experience that occurs as in a
>generational gap but without
>such an age difference.

"cultural gap". no reference to age, no hierarchy.



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