Here's a short interview that aired this morning, relating to my story in The Atlantic's current issue. Steve Inskeep is in the driver's seat. 

One thing I want to emphasize about this piece. Progress is not an either/or proposition, nor does it move in a direct, unerring straight line. One result of the Civil War was the onset of a century of racial lynching. (The lynching of black people was virtually unheard-of before the War. We were worth too much alive.) Another result was the prohibition on placing black people on the auction block and selling them off like cattle. I maintain that ending slavery still counts as progress. Likewise, the fact that Barack Obama's election didn't end racism for all time does not mean that his election was not progress. A Hillary Clinton victory would have been progress; it would not have meant the forever defeat of American sexism.

A quick aside: Eva, I sent the magazine to Yukon on Monday. Hope you enjoy.