Deepak Chopra “is someone who is challenging many of us who live somewhat comfortably in what we consider to be the ‘rational,’” admitted Atlantic editor Steve Clemons during their interview at The Atlantic Meets the Pacific on Thursday. Chopra, who was trained as a doctor, has written more than 65 books, built friendships with stars like Elizabeth Taylor and Michael Jackson, and created his own “center for wellbeing” in California. Clearly, he has an audience for his way of understanding health and communities, which includes a belief in synchronizing people’s personal energy fields and shedding light on crime by analyzing a city’s “states of consciousness.”
So why does his way of thinking make Clemons and other “rationalists” uncomfortable? The language he uses to talk about health and wellness is only slightly edgier than what you might hear in a yoga class. Practices like meditation are fairly common – even Oprah is doing it. But while self-respecting rationalists might be able to wave away talk about inner peace and well-ordered biofields during recreational activities, when it comes to science, for god’s sake, that kind of spiritualism doesn’t belong.
This distinction came up in casual conversations about Chopra with a few of the event’s attendees, who mostly work in health and the sciences. “It’s not science, but it’s a personal belief that I kind of have,” one person said. “It’s not science, but that doesn’t mean it’s wrong,” said another. Chopra doesn’t seem to see things that way, though – throughout his interview, he used specifically scientific language, referring to biological measurement, quantum physics, and human physiology.
“There are biofields – every part of our body, every cell of our body, has a magnetic field that it transmits,” he explained toward the beginning of the conversation. “Our biofields are going to interfere with each other. If you all hear the expression, ‘I went into this room, and it was very stressful, you could cut it with a knife, it was so tense,’ or, “I went into this holy temple or this shrine and I felt at peace’ – now we can biologically measure that.”
To Chopra, these magnetic fields are an important indicator of what’s going on in communities, too. “[You can] correlate states of consciousness with states of biology using mathematical algorithms and correlate that with crime, with hospital admissions, with traffic accidents, with social unrest, with quality of leadership,” he said. “I can tell you intuitively at this moment, the biofield of Syria is not a coherent biofield – or of Washington, D.C., for that matter. What does that mean for the state of the world?”