I don't think I would have gone so hard at Chris Wallace, but Dick Cheney arguing that even agents who violated the Justice departments own guidelines on torture, the Bush administrations guidelines, says so much:
The former vice-president of the United States is here backing torture techniques that even his own hack lawyers believed were illegal. He is basically saying that the law had no salience or relevance in his program of torturing prisoners. He is attacking the rule of law in its entirety. Let that sink in: we had a vice-president who had contempt for the rule of law.
More than that you see that the Justice department's loose standard was really a sham. When the sham is exposed, you just disregard the whole enterprise and say we are bound by no laws--except the particular argument made at this particular moment.