In Defense of Jim Manzi against Jerry Coyne


by Jim Manzi

Jerry Coyne has, in his words, “deigned” to respond to my post criticizing an assertion he made in his TNR review of Robert Wright’s book, Evolution of God.  In this response, Professor Coyne calls me a “flea”; makes fun of my last name by crossing out “Ponzi” and replacing it with “Manzi”; reviews the resume of another person, and asserts that it is mine; and describes my post as “tedious”, while responding to it with 1,500 words.  His tone, in other words, is somewhat intemperate.  I have found it to be an almost universal rule of debates and negotiations that when the guy on the other side of the table starts calling you names, it means that he doesn’t have much of an argument.  I certainly think so in this case. 

Before getting to what I see as the meat of our disagreement, I should clear up what I believe to be a couple of material misrepresentations of my post by Professor Coyne. 

First, he claims that I have asserted that evolution is a designed algorithm, and that evolution has a divinely created goal.  It is surprising that Coyne believes I made these assertions, when in the summation of the post I said the following:

Accepting evolution, therefore, requires neither the denial of a Creator nor the loss of the idea of ultimate purpose. It resolves neither issue for us one way or the other.

I went out of my way to say over and again that I was making no argument for a designer or a plan.  I was making a much narrower assertion: that evolution does not rule out such a belief.

Second, Professor Coyne says flatly that one of my two main points was that “the ‘first cause’ argument is evidence for God”.  Here is what I said in my post:

It is obvious from the factory analogy that evolution does not eliminate the problem of ultimate origins. …

A scientific theory is a falsifiable rule that relates cause to effect. If you push the chain of causality back far enough, you either find yourself more or less right back where Aristotle was more than 2,000 years ago in stating his view that any conception of any chain of cause-and-effect must ultimately begin with an Uncaused Cause, or just accept the problem of infinite regress.

In other words, being able to describe a set of physical rules that explain scientifically how particles can interact to create so much of nature (what I called a scientific result of “stupendous beauty and power”) does not address the problem of ultimate origins – i.e., where do these rules and the most fundamental particles come from?  Note that I didn’t assert that one must accept even as general an idea as Uncaused Cause, never mind God, merely that he must either accept there was a first cause, or just live with the problem of infinite regress.

Coyne cites the passage above and reacts in this way:

Oh dear. This is such an old chestnut.  And the answer is the same as it’s been for decades:  why is God any more an “uncaused cause” than is the universe, or the “physical laws” themselves? 

But of course, implicit in Coyne’s response is the point that the problem of first cause existed before Charles Darwin was born – many centuries before, in fact, as per my post.  Once again, my point in this regard was not that the only resolution to this philosophical question is that one must believe in God, only that evolution through natural selection does not resolve it.

Once past the smokescreen of Coyne's Don Rickles schtick and his misrepresentations, we come to what I see as our core disagreement.  Hopefully engaging on this will be more productive.  In my post, I said that Coyne claimed in his review that “evolution through natural selection demonstrates that there is no divine plan for the universe.  Coyne, in his reply to me, says this about it:

Wrong!  What I have said repeatedly is that there is no evidence for a divine plan for the universe. 
Well, here is the first paragraph of Coyne’s review, which I quoted in my post [Bold added]:
Over its history, science has delivered two crippling blows to humanity’s self-image. The first was Galileo’s announcement, in 1632, that our Earth was just another planet and not, as Scripture implied, the center of the universe. The secondand more severelanded in 1859, when Charles Darwin published On the Origin of Species, demolishing, in 545 pages of closely reasoned prose, the comforting notion that we are unique among all speciesthe supreme object of God’s creation, and the only creature whose earthly travails could be cashed in for a comfortable afterlife.

He doesn’t say that there is no evidence for it, but that Darwin demolished this notion.

Coyne, in his reply, makes a lot of the fact that he doesn’t dismiss the idea of a “deistic creator that set things in motion and went to lunch”, but that certain conceptions of God are ruled out by science.  What is ruled out exactly?  It’s important here to distinguish between mechanism and purpose.  In his original essay, Coyne claims that “Charles Darwin…demolished…the comforting notion that we are unique among species – the supreme object of God’s creation”, so presumably without regard to the mechanism of just setting things in motion versus intervening frequently, Coyne believes that there can be no divine plan that makes us unique.  

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